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Tuesday, April 13, 2010

Fwd: [bangla-vision] 800,000 teen pregnancies, 150,000 Child marriages in the USA. RE: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition



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From: kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com>
Date: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 10:18 PM

 

800,000 teen pregnancies, including 150,000 Child marriages in the US annually.

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Early marriage survives in the U.S.

Paul Salopek
Chicago Tribune
Dec. 29, 2004 12:00 AM
BELLMEAD, Texas - In its most forgiving outline, the love story of Liset and James Landeros has the ring of a fairy tale.

Liset and James fell in love. They defied their parents - and the law - to follow their hearts. And after many struggles and trials, they finally married.

But one harsh detail - their ages - belies this romantic formula. A slight, quiet girl with coffee-colored eyes, Liset was only 12 when she began dating James, four years her senior. At 13 she was pregnant and miscarried her first baby. At age 14 she married James to keep him out of jail; the state of Texas was threatening to charge him with the statutory rape of a minor.
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"Everybody wanted to separate us, but we didn't let them," Liset says with girlish pride. "Being married young isn't easy. But we're trying."

Trying, in the young Landeros' case, means that James, now a 21-year-old father without a high school diploma, pulls double shifts managing a cafeteria to help pay the couple's household bills. And Liset, a 9th-grade dropout and the mother of a rambunctious 2-year-old daughter, works six days a week as a waitress at a Mexican restaurant. An awkward 17-year-old, she looks even younger than her years as she shyly takes down orders. Her boss calls her "baby girl."

Mention the words "child bride," and what generally springs to mind are the millions of girls bullied into arranged marriages in the dusty villages of Africa or Asia - not jeans-clad American kids such as Liset Landeros.

But even though early marriage is an issue overwhelmingly associated with the developing world - barely 2 percent of all American pregnancies, for instance, involve married girls under 18, government statistics show - the antique practice still survives in the United States. And it often sentences young American women to a lifetime of poverty and other problems. While they don't face the severe pregnancy-related injuries of young girls in the developing world, they risk increased rates of chronic anemia and obesity.

America's child brides tend to be older than their foreign sisters: Marriage records show they are usually in their mid- to late teens, not the preteens of Afghanistan or Bangladesh. And many American girls, exercising an enviable degree of choice, tend to marry out of love, not because they were railroaded into wedlock by tribal traditions or religion.

But the most unexpected difference of all involves the changing popularity of the practice at home and abroad. Even as humanitarian groups have begun slowly working to eliminate child marriage overseas, arguing successfully that it violates the basic human rights of girls, surprising numbers of youngsters in the United States are edging closer toward the altar.

One of the few studies of teen marriage in the United States, carried out by the Center for Law and Social Policy, a Washington think tank, found that the number of married teen-agers in the United States surged by almost 50 percent during the 1990s - the most significant jump in early marriage since the 1950s.

The report pegs the growing attractiveness of early wedlock in the United States to a complex variety of factors: the spread of abstinence-only-until-marriage sex education at American schools, a shift toward cultural conservatism among some teens and a growing fear among youngsters of contracting AIDS through promiscuity.

Such data are questioned by some experts, who note that marriage records in the United States are patchy at best.

But a recent national opinion poll shows that 84 percent of American teen-agers believe strongly in marriage before childbirth, suggesting the trend may be real.

Perhaps only 150,000 of the more than 800,000 teen-age pregnancies that occur in the United States every year involve married girls, research shows.

"This is really unexplored territory in the States because most of us are still focused on the more typical case of unwed mothers," says Andrea Kane, an analyst at the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, which conducted the teen opinion survey.

Kane adds that extremely young U.S. brides face their own problems: They tend to drop out of school at even higher rates than single mothers; their marriages usually don't last; and they face an increased risk of domestic violence compared to women who marry at an older age.

Liset Landeros knows none of this.

When it comes to the subject of her young marriage, she prefers to describe how her father sang country and western songs at her backyard ceremony.

According to records at the Texas Department of Health, Liset was one of nearly 60 girls in that state who married in 2002 at the tender age of 14 - the minimum age in Texas with parental consent. (A handful of other states sanction extremely early marriages with parental consent: In Alabama, South Carolina and Utah, girls can marry at 14; in New Hampshire it's 13; in Massachusetts and Kansas, 12.)

In 2002, state social workers informed the young couple that they would advocate charges of statutory rape against James when he became a legal adult at 18, family members say. Liset's mother said Texas child protection officials also threatened to take custody of her other children if she didn't break off her daughter's underage relationship.

In the face of such harsh law-enforcement action, Liset rushed to the altar. She says she and James had planned to marry anyway.

"It was love at first sight," Liset says. "My parents didn't agree. So I ran away from home and moved in with James."

Today the couple have moved into Liset's parents' house on a plot of land outside of town. On the surface, they are little different from thousands of other members of the working poor in Bellmead, a bedroom community outside Waco - a conservative, blue-collar city that is the seat of a county with one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the nation.

"I'm just taking it day by day," says James, who works 70-hour weeks at a cafeteria in a nearby turkey-packing plant. "We argue sometimes. But it's always about little things."

During the week, Liset rarely sees her curly-haired toddler, Mersaydiz, 2, unless her mother and constant baby-sitter, Juana Rodriguez, brings her to the restaurant.

On those occasions, Liset dashes outside like a schoolgirl released by the bell. She strides around the parking lot with her daughter on her hip.

"People don't know how hard this life is," says Rodriguez, 39, an immigrant from Mexico who also married at 14. "I was angry at my daughter. But she is so stubborn. There was no stopping her."

In fact, the bond of too-early wedlock shared by Rodriguez and her headstrong daughter may be another explanation for the perplexing rise in domestic child marriage, experts say. Immigration from developing countries where the practice is the norm, particularly Latin America, may be boosting the number of underage wives in the United States.

According to the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, young girls of Latino descent are bucking a historic national downward trend in teen pregnancy.

One study released in March by the Mid-America Institute on Poverty in Illinois shows that the birthrate for Latinas age 10 to 19 in that state actually grew by 18 percent in the past decade, while birthrates for all other ethnic groups declined.

"We get a steady influx of people from Mexico, and they bring certain traditions with them," says Maria Socorro Pesqueira, the executive director of Latina Women in Action, an outreach organization in Chicago. "There are quinceanera (coming-of-age) parties for 15-year-old girls that send the signal: Hey, you're a lady now and ready to move on in life."

Liset, a fresh-faced and thoroughly American child bride, never had such a party. But she has definitely moved on in life.

"I want to go back to school," Liset says hopefully, echoing a universal desire that social workers hear from child wives around the world. "Maybe then I can become a cosmetologist, or maybe an interior designer."

She hopes to re-enroll in the 9th grade this spring, after giving birth to a new baby. This time it is a boy. He will be named James, after his father.


un, 4/11/10, Faiz <tahirakhan@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Faiz <tahirakhan@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition
To: "Z T Minhas" <ztminhas@yahoo.com>, "Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam" <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>, @yahoogroups.com, "Farzana Hassan" <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, April 11, 2010, 4:27 PM


Mihas,
 
<<<Even in America minor are allowed to get married if there is written consent from the parents/guardians.>>>
 
and then you said:
 
<<<In UK jews have special rules allowing them to have child marriages.>>>
 
I hope in your next post you will come up with a solid proof to support your above statement--by quoting from a book of law regarding the presumed 'child marriages'.  I am shocked to read this.  Please provide some credible evidence that child marriages are legal in the US if parents approve. If you don't, obviously you will be called a LIAR. I know you won't mind that because LYING is not an exception for the mullahs, it's the rule---but you can prove me wrong by quoting a "written law" regarding child marriages in America and the UK. 
 
Irfan
----- Original Message -----
From: Z T Minhas
To: Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam ; Faiz ; Bint Waleed ; Mubashir Inayet ; The Muslim Chronicle ; MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com ; Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique ; zina.khan@yahoo.com ; mnaquvi@yahoo.com ; ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org ; azam.sikandar@gmail.com ; tirmidhi@hotmail.com ; alishaban952@yahoo.com ; yasminsurani@hotmail.com ; great72000@yahoo.com ; hassan_javid@hotmail.com ; aleem.faizee@gmail.com ; mustafvi@gmail.com ; faruquealamgir@yahoo.com ; drshabbir@comcast.net ; salsabeel65@yahoo.com ; khasif235e@yahoo.com ; zakhum@hotmail.com ; ank2000pk@yahoo.com ; firasat777@yahoo.com ; anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com ; yunussidira@yahoo.com ; fidvi@hotmail.com ; premsadani@hotmail.com ; ssmeezan@hotmail.com ; wyeknotusa@aol.com ; ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com ; amino66@hotmail.com ; k2411871@hotmail.com ; pk4318@yahoo.com ; sohail972002@yahoo.co.in ; afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com ; april702@cox.net ; auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk ; gul_badshah@yahoo.com ; shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in ; ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com ; sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk ; mirza.syed@gmail.com ; khattak99@yahoo.com ; brilliant005@hotmail.com ; karimsamani@yahoo.com ; yas1rkhan@hotmail.com ; multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com ; mikeghouse@aol.com ; ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com ; doctorforu123@yahoo.com ; drmookhi@hotmail.com ; tarekfatah@rogers.com ; moderate53@yahoo.com ; webmaster9@mostmerciful.com ; hasniessa@yahoo.com ; rishidwivedi1@gmail.com ; bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com ; pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com ; Farzana Hassan
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition

They are making an ACTIVE EFFORT to ban niqab, and she has stated her support to ban hijab when she thinks  the time is right. She never ONCE said anything about child fornication, which happens more often than child marriages. If she doesn't know this she doesn't live in Canada. Even in America minor are allowed to get married if there is written consent from the parents/guardians. In UK jews have special rules allowing them to have child marriages. She doesn't mention any of this. It is MUSLIMS that are the problem with her.

Read carefully, we Muslims don't take our queue, suggestions, advice or even hints from these kind of people. If they want to teach about Chemistry that is fine, our deen and Islam comes from the Quran, the sunnat, and the example of practitioners of Islam. NOT FROM SECULOHOES.

Z T
 
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From: Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>
To: Z T Minhas <ztminhas@yahoo.com>; Faiz <tahirakhan@comcast.net>; Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>; Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com>; The Muslim Chronicle <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>; MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com; "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>; zina.khan@yahoo.com; mnaquvi@yahoo.com; ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org; azam.sikandar@gmail.com; tirmidhi@hotmail.com; alishaban952@yahoo.com; yasminsurani@hotmail.com; great72000@yahoo.com; hassan_javid@hotmail.com; aleem.faizee@gmail.com; mustafvi@gmail.com; faruquealamgir@yahoo.com; drshabbir@comcast.net; salsabeel65@yahoo.com; khasif235e@yahoo.com; zakhum@hotmail.com; ank2000pk@yahoo.com; firasat777@yahoo.com; anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com; yunussidira@yahoo.com; fidvi@hotmail.com; premsadani@hotmail.com; ssmeezan@hotmail.com; wyeknotusa@aol.com; ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com; amino66@hotmail.com; k2411871@hotmail.com; pk4318@yahoo.com; sohail972002@yahoo.co.in; afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com; april702@cox.net; auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk; gul_badshah@yahoo.com; shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in; ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com; sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk; mirza.syed@gmail.com; khattak99@yahoo.com; brilliant005@hotmail.com; karimsamani@yahoo.com; yas1rkhan@hotmail.com; multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com; mikeghouse@aol.com; ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com; doctorforu123@yahoo.com; drmookhi@hotmail.com; tarekfatah@rogers.com; moderate53@yahoo.com; webmaster9@mostmerciful.com; hasniessa@yahoo.com; rishidwivedi1@gmail.com; bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com; pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com; Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 9:06:37
Subject: Re: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition

Minhas saheb,  Without supporting child marriage ,we need to communicate for defending rights of Muslim women to wear hijab and niqab. MCC needs to have a new petition for this. Farzana is neither a supporter of adultery, nor she is a supporter of drinking intoxicating drinks.
 
Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam
58-C, Top Floor,DDA Janta Flats, Ashok Vihar-III,Delhi-110052,India
Tel:+9968345380
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http://muhammad_mukhtar_alam.tigblog.org



From: Z T Minhas <ztminhas@yahoo.com>
To: Faiz <tahirakhan@comcast.net>; Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>; Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com>; The Muslim Chronicle <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>; MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com; Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>; "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>; zina.khan@yahoo.com; mnaquvi@yahoo.com; ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org; azam.sikandar@gmail.com; tirmidhi@hotmail.com; alishaban952@yahoo.com; yasminsurani@hotmail.com; great72000@yahoo.com; hassan_javid@hotmail.com; aleem.faizee@gmail.com; mustafvi@gmail.com; faruquealamgir@yahoo.com; drshabbir@comcast.net; salsabeel65@yahoo.com; khasif235e@yahoo.com; zakhum@hotmail.com; ank2000pk@yahoo.com; firasat777@yahoo.com; anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com; yunussidira@yahoo.com; fidvi@hotmail.com; premsadani@hotmail.com; ssmeezan@hotmail.com; wyeknotusa@aol.com; ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com; amino66@hotmail.com; k2411871@hotmail.com; pk4318@yahoo.com; sohail972002@yahoo.co.in; afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com; april702@cox.net; auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk; gul_badshah@yahoo.com; shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in; ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com; sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk; mirza.syed@gmail.com; khattak99@yahoo.com; brilliant005@hotmail.com; karimsamani@yahoo.com; yas1rkhan@hotmail.com; multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com; mikeghouse@aol.com; ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com; doctorforu123@yahoo.com; drmookhi@hotmail.com; tarekfatah@rogers.com; moderate53@yahoo.com; webmaster9@mostmerciful.com; hasniessa@yahoo.com; rishidwivedi1@gmail.com; bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com; pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com; Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, 11 April, 2010 11:01:48 AM
Subject: Re: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition

Over one million people have died in Iraq and what the hell have you said? Nothing, You  talk about business mafias in and YOU conveniently left out the source of the mafia, your lover Zardari. You are a hypocrite, that is what you are.

Z T
 
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From: Faiz <tahirakhan@comcast.net>
To: Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>; Z T Minhas <ztminhas@yahoo.com>; Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com>; The Muslim Chronicle <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>; MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com; Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>; "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>; zina.khan@yahoo.com; mnaquvi@yahoo.com; ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org; azam.sikandar@gmail.com; tirmidhi@hotmail.com; alishaban952@yahoo.com; yasminsurani@hotmail.com; great72000@yahoo.com; hassan_javid@hotmail.com; aleem.faizee@gmail.com; mustafvi@gmail.com; faruquealamgir@yahoo.com; drshabbir@comcast.net; salsabeel65@yahoo.com; khasif235e@yahoo.com; zakhum@hotmail.com; ank2000pk@yahoo.com; firasat777@yahoo.com; anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com; yunussidira@yahoo.com; fidvi@hotmail.com; premsadani@hotmail.com; ssmeezan@hotmail.com; wyeknotusa@aol.com; ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com; amino66@hotmail.com; k2411871@hotmail.com; pk4318@yahoo.com; sohail972002@yahoo.co.in; afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com; april702@cox.net; auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk; gul_badshah@yahoo.com; shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in; ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com; sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk; mirza.syed@gmail.com; khattak99@yahoo.com; brilliant005@hotmail.com; karimsamani@yahoo.com; yas1rkhan@hotmail.com; multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com; mikeghouse@aol.com; ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com; doctorforu123@yahoo.com; drmookhi@hotmail.com; tarekfatah@rogers.com; moderate53@yahoo.com; webmaster9@mostmerciful.com; hasniessa@yahoo.com; rishidwivedi1@gmail.com; bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com; pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com; Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:39:37
Subject: Re: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition


Bint,
 
Instead of defending child marriages and becoming a part of attracitgy, do the right thing:  Join billion of people in condemning the child marriages.
 
Now read this:
 
 
(CNN) -- A 12-year-old Yemeni bride died of internal bleeding following intercourse three days after she was married off to an older man, the United Nations Children's Fund said.
The girl was married to a man at least twice her age, said Sigrid Kaag, UNICEF regional director for the Middle East and North Africa.
Her death is "a painful reminder of the risks girls face when they are married too soon," Kaag said Thursday.
Amal Basha, chairwoman of the Sisters Arab Forum for Human Rights, a Yemeni human rights group, identified the girl Friday as Elham Mahdi.
"Elham was married on March 29th and died three days later" and lived in Yemen's Hajjah province, Basha said.
 
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The girl's death is the latest in a series of child marriage cases in Yemen, where the minimum age to tie the knot is still under debate.
Frustrated by the recent revelation, a Yemeni government official called the case "a stark reminder that the practice of underage marriage must come to an end."
"The government has been working tirelessly to cement the minimum marriage age but conservative parliamentarians have stood against it," said the official, who is not authorized to speak to the media. "Members of the conservative block need to step up to the responsibility of protecting the rights and freedoms of the young. NGOs must continue campaigning to shed the light on this unfortunate practice."
In September, a 12-year-old Yemeni girl forced into marriage died during childbirth. Her baby also died, according to the Seyaj Organization for the Protection of Children.
Fawziya Ammodi was in labor for three days before she died of severe bleeding, said Ahmed al-Qureshi, president of the organization.
"Although the cause of her death was lack of medical care, the real case was the lack of education in Yemen and the fact that child marriages keep happening," al-Qureshi said.
Child brides are common in Yemen, where the United Nations estimates that one in three girls are married before age 18. Most are married off to older men with more than one wife, according to a study by Sanaa University.
For the girl's parents, marriage means the daughters are no longer a financial or moral burden. Most times, parents get a promise from the husband to wait until the girl is older to consummate the marriage.
"Early marriage places girls at increased risk of dropping out of school, being exposed to violence, abuse and exploitation, and even losing their lives from pregnancy, childbirth and other complications," UNICEF said.
The issue of Yemeni child brides made headlines in 2008 when 10-year-old Nujood Ali was pulled out of school and married. Her husband beat and raped her within weeks of the ceremony.
To escape, Nujood hailed a taxi -- the first time in her life -- to get to the central courthouse where she sat on a bench and demanded to see a judge.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bint Waleed
To: Z T Minhas ; Faiz ; Mubashir Inayet ; The Muslim Chronicle ; MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com ; Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam ; Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique ; bintwaleed@yahoo.com ; zina.khan@yahoo.com ; mnaquvi@yahoo.com ; ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org ; azam.sikandar@gmail.com ; tirmidhi@hotmail.com ; alishaban952@yahoo.com ; yasminsurani@hotmail.com ; great72000@yahoo.com ; hassan_javid@hotmail.com ; aleem.faizee@gmail.com ; mustafvi@gmail.com ; faruquealamgir@yahoo.com ; drshabbir@comcast.net ; salsabeel65@yahoo.com ; khasif235e@yahoo.com ; zakhum@hotmail.com ; ank2000pk@yahoo.com ; firasat777@yahoo.com ; anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com ; yunussidira@yahoo.com ; fidvi@hotmail.com ; premsadani@hotmail.com ; ssmeezan@hotmail.com ; wyeknotusa@aol.com ; ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com ; amino66@hotmail.com ; k2411871@hotmail.com ; pk4318@yahoo.com ; sohail972002@yahoo.co.in ; afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com ; april702@cox.net ; auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk ; gul_badshah@yahoo.com ; shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in ; ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com ; sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk ; mirza.syed@gmail.com ; khattak99@yahoo.com ; brilliant005@hotmail.com ; karimsamani@yahoo.com ; yas1rkhan@hotmail.com ; multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com ; mikeghouse@aol.com ; ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com ; doctorforu123@yahoo.com ; drmookhi@hotmail.com ; tarekfatah@rogers.com ; moderate53@yahoo.com ; webmaster9@mostmerciful.com ; hasniessa@yahoo.com ; rishidwivedi1@gmail.com ; bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com ; pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com ; Farzana Hassan
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: (Farzana) MCC needs a new petition

Farzana, what's not standard behavior and proper conduct in one society may be suited, and accepted in another community. Every culture and civilization has its own decorous. A marriage of a 15 and 16 year girl may not be considered a right thing in one culture but perfectly acceptable in another. It's a matter of what is ma'roof (prevalent/accepted) in a society and conforming to the accepted standard of behavior.

It's not ma'roof in the society we live in for 15 and 16 years to get married; however, it's quite ma'roof and expected here that boys and girls of high school age, and some even junior high age, to be involved in the ultimate relationship with multiple partners. Whereas, such conduct from minor children would be considered no less than abominable in other societies.

Believe me the world is not confined to Europe and North America . Such thinking is a fruit of Western incomprehension of the essence of other worlds, a result of mistakenly measuring them all with a Western yardstick. Let's not make that mistake.

Bint Waleed



--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MCC needs a new petition
To: "Z T Minhas" <ztminhas@yahoo.com>, "Faiz" <tahirakhan@comcast.net>, "Mubashir Inayet" <minayet@yahoo.com>, "The Muslim Chronicle" <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>, MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam" <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>, "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>, "Bint Waleed" <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>, zina.khan@yahoo.com, mnaquvi@yahoo.com, ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org, azam.sikandar@gmail.com, tirmidhi@hotmail.com, alishaban952@yahoo.com, yasminsurani@hotmail.com, great72000@yahoo.com, hassan_javid@hotmail.com, aleem.faizee@gmail.com, mustafvi@gmail.com, faruquealamgir@yahoo.com, drshabbir@comcast.net, salsabeel65@yahoo.com, khasif235e@yahoo.com, zakhum@hotmail.com, ank2000pk@yahoo.com, firasat777@yahoo.com, anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com, yunussidira@yahoo.com, fidvi@hotmail.com, premsadani@hotmail.com, ssmeezan@hotmail.com, wyeknotusa@aol.com, ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com, amino66@hotmail.com, k2411871@hotmail.com, pk4318@yahoo.com, sohail972002@yahoo.co.in, afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com, april702@cox.net, auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk, gul_badshah@yahoo.com, shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in, ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com, sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk, mirza.syed@gmail.com, khattak99@yahoo.com, brilliant005@hotmail.com, karimsamani@yahoo.com, yas1rkhan@hotmail.com, multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com, mikeghouse@aol.com, ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com, doctorforu123@yahoo.com, drmookhi@hotmail.com, tarekfatah@rogers.com, moderate53@yahoo.com, webmaster9@mostmerciful.com, hasniessa@yahoo.com, rishidwivedi1@gmail.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:08 PM

Bint Waleed
Child marraiges should be opposed because of the exploitative manner in which they take place. These girls usually have no say in the matter......
Farzana
 
 
 


--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MCC needs a new petition
To: "Z T Minhas" <ztminhas@yahoo.com>, "Faiz" <tahirakhan@comcast.net>, "Mubashir Inayet" <minayet@yahoo.com>, "The Muslim Chronicle" <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>, MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam" <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>, "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>, bintwaleed@yahoo.com, zina.khan@yahoo.com, mnaquvi@yahoo.com, ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org, azam.sikandar@gmail.com, tirmidhi@hotmail.com, alishaban952@yahoo.com, yasminsurani@hotmail.com, great72000@yahoo.com, hassan_javid@hotmail.com, aleem.faizee@gmail.com, mustafvi@gmail.com, faruquealamgir@yahoo.com, drshabbir@comcast.net, salsabeel65@yahoo.com, khasif235e@yahoo.com, zakhum@hotmail.com, ank2000pk@yahoo.com, firasat777@yahoo.com, anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com, yunussidira@yahoo.com, fidvi@hotmail.com, premsadani@hotmail.com, ssmeezan@hotmail.com, wyeknotusa@aol.com, ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com, amino66@hotmail.com, k2411871@hotmail.com, pk4318@yahoo.com, sohail972002@yahoo.co.in, afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com, april702@cox.net, auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk, gul_badshah@yahoo.com, shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in, ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com, sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk, mirza.syed@gmail.com, khattak99@yahoo.com, brilliant005@hotmail.com, karimsamani@yahoo.com, yas1rkhan@hotmail.com, multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com, mikeghouse@aol.com, ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com, doctorforu123@yahoo.com, drmookhi@hotmail.com, tarekfatah@rogers.com, moderate53@yahoo.com, webmaster9@mostmerciful.com, hasniessa@yahoo.com, rishidwivedi1@gmail.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com, "Farzana Hassan" <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:44 PM

Personally I am not in favor of child marriages, nevertheless, I think marriage should not be delayed for this or that reason. Staying single well beyond the age when the natural urge develops is one of the factors of moral decay in the society we live in. Agree?

Islam is a very practical and natural way of life. If we follow its teachings it will take care of many of our individual and societal problem.

Bint Waleed   

--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MCC needs a new petition
To: "Z T Minhas" <ztminhas@yahoo.com>, "Faiz" <tahirakhan@comcast.net>, "Mubashir Inayet" <minayet@yahoo.com>, "The Muslim Chronicle" <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>, MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam" <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>, "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>, zina.khan@yahoo.com, mnaquvi@yahoo.com, ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org, "Bint Waleed" <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>, azam.sikandar@gmail.com, tirmidhi@hotmail.com, alishaban952@yahoo.com, yasminsurani@hotmail.com, great72000@yahoo.com, hassan_javid@hotmail.com, aleem.faizee@gmail.com, mustafvi@gmail.com, faruquealamgir@yahoo.com, drshabbir@comcast.net, salsabeel65@yahoo.com, khasif235e@yahoo.com, zakhum@hotmail.com, ank2000pk@yahoo.com, firasat777@yahoo.com, anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com, yunussidira@yahoo.com, fidvi@hotmail.com, premsadani@hotmail.com, ssmeezan@hotmail.com, wyeknotusa@aol.com, ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com, amino66@hotmail.com, k2411871@hotmail.com, pk4318@yahoo.com, sohail972002@yahoo.co.in, afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com, april702@cox.net, auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk, gul_badshah@yahoo.com, shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in, ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com, sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk, mirza.syed@gmail.com, khattak99@yahoo.com, brilliant005@hotmail.com, karimsamani@yahoo.com, yas1rkhan@hotmail.com, multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com, mikeghouse@aol.com, ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com, doctorforu123@yahoo.com, drmookhi@hotmail.com, tarekfatah@rogers.com, moderate53@yahoo.com, webmaster9@mostmerciful.com, hasniessa@yahoo.com, rishidwivedi1@gmail.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 8:27 AM



Bint Waleed...yes, MCC is supporting a new petition and I hope you'll do the right thing by signing it
 
 


--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bint Waleed <bintwaleed@yahoo.com>
Subject: MCC needs a new petition
To: "Z T Minhas" <ztminhas@yahoo.com>, "Faiz" <tahirakhan@comcast.net>, "Mubashir Inayet" <minayet@yahoo.com>, "The Muslim Chronicle" <muslimchronicle@yahoogroups.com>, MuslimChronicle-owner@yahoogroups.com, "Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam" <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com>, "Farzana Hassan <farzanaqazi@yahoo.com>kaukab siddique" <butshikan@msn.com>, zina.khan@yahoo.com, mnaquvi@yahoo.com, ummaabroadcasting@rollanet.org, bintwaleed@yahoo.com, azam.sikandar@gmail.com, tirmidhi@hotmail.com, alishaban952@yahoo.com, yasminsurani@hotmail.com, great72000@yahoo.com, hassan_javid@hotmail.com, aleem.faizee@gmail.com, mustafvi@gmail.com, faruquealamgir@yahoo.com, drshabbir@comcast.net, salsabeel65@yahoo.com, khasif235e@yahoo.com, zakhum@hotmail.com, ank2000pk@yahoo.com, firasat777@yahoo.com, anwerkhurshid@hotmail.com, yunussidira@yahoo.com, fidvi@hotmail.com, premsadani@hotmail.com, ssmeezan@hotmail.com, wyeknotusa@aol.com, ahlam_albahr@yahoo.com, amino66@hotmail.com, k2411871@hotmail.com, pk4318@yahoo.com, sohail972002@yahoo.co.in, afg_fitnesstrainer@hotmail.com, april702@cox.net, auzyxkhan@yahoo.co.uk, gul_badshah@yahoo.com, shariq.hamid@yahoo.co.in, ahmadtotonji@yahoo.com, sarwar@muslim-ed-trust.org.uk, mirza.syed@gmail.com, khattak99@yahoo.com, brilliant005@hotmail.com, karimsamani@yahoo.com, yas1rkhan@hotmail.com, multiculturalism-pluralismgroup@yahoogroups.com, mikeghouse@aol.com, ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com, doctorforu123@yahoo.com, drmookhi@hotmail.com, tarekfatah@rogers.com, moderate53@yahoo.com, webmaster9@mostmerciful.com, hasniessa@yahoo.com, rishidwivedi1@gmail.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, pakistanaffairs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:01 AM





 
See, MCC has to petition to ban the ski mask too, not just the security risked burqa
 
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